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CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:41 am
by louiswun
Is there any Low AFM signal voltage setting to trigger limp mode ?
Could it be modify ?
I see if the signal lower than 1.040V, the mixture will goes rich.
I'm tuning a CA18 with Z32 AFM, can't get proper AFR transistion from 700rpm to 900rpm while idle switch is on.

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:10 am
by skylinegtrhr
N13? I didn't try that , but B13 SR20DE has Low AFM Voltage Enrichment Trigger which help in same situation. It is in expert mode all way down ...

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:04 pm
by Matt
There is a low voltage check of 0x0008 * 50mV = 400mV at address 8673 in the code (36F05) for the MAF DTC trigger

After this there is a check 0x014 x 50mV = 1000mV at address 86AB in the code which I think is the low voltage you are hitting. Only changing the code directly can alter that

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:41 am
by louiswun
Matt wrote:There is a low voltage check of 0x0008 * 50mV = 400mV at address 8673 in the code (36F05) for the MAF DTC trigger

After this there is a check 0x014 x 50mV = 1000mV at address 86AB in the code which I think is the low voltage you are hitting. Only changing the code directly can alter that
Hi Matt,
Is it possible to change address 8673 and 86AB in the HEX editor ?
The rom image I can access is only from 0000 to 3FFF.

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:42 am
by louiswun
skylinegtrhr wrote:N13? I didn't try that , but B13 SR20DE has Low AFM Voltage Enrichment Trigger which help in same situation. It is in expert mode all way down ...
Hi skylinegtrhr,
That is S13 CA18DET.

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:17 am
by ricardomendes
interested in this too

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:28 pm
by Matt
See how louis goes with the code changes I've emailed him

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:53 am
by ricardomendes
ok thanks

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:30 am
by ricardomendes
Matt it's possible that any of the flags like bit 1,bit2 etc could be this low voltage enable/disable?

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:40 am
by Matt
Not likely for CA18 as it is all hard coded. Later models moved the voltage checks into separate parameters which we can modify but not this earlier ECU

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:34 am
by ricardomendes
Matt have you identified all the flags on ca18 ecu?

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:13 pm
by Matt
Not at this time. I'm looking at SR20s and RBs at the moment

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:01 am
by RiBs
I have the exact same problem with my S13 CA18DET with Z32 AFM.

Could you explain how I can solve it?

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:54 am
by Matt
I've got louis email in my inbox so I will start looking into it this week. At this stage there is no solution for the issue

Re: CA18 Low AFM signal voltage = limp mode ?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:11 am
by raddy
not sure if this is solution,but you can find here schematic of my diy device that add adjustable voltage to the AFM output signal. This can prevent limp mode that causing your issue,as you can define minimum AFM voltage.