HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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In the attachment there are two files for HCR32 ECUs used for RB25

These updates provide VCT control for the HCR32 ECU to control the RB25 VCT output using the same code as in the Z32 ECU for the VCT solenoid on the RB25 engine.

This effectively uses the R32 ECU without the need for external window switches etc

Documents\Nistune\ROM_Pack\Type2\ECR33_RB25

HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U0F_MT_TPS_VCT_ACOUT_v5_FP
AC out removes the air conditioner output relay (useful in applications such as transplants or drift cars) to control the VCT solenoid

HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U0F_MT_TPS_VCT_LEDOUT_v5_FP.ent
LED out utilises the spare (green) LED output on earlier R32 ECUs. The part numbers should be MEC-R1XX or 23710-04Uxx where there is a spare LED output

These files also contain the FP1 firmware for flex fuel, launch control and injector adjustment. Files have been bench tested for correct VCT operation. At this stage they are in test release until vehicle tested (will be doing this week)
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Added A31 RB20 ECU support for RB25 with VCT

Documents\Nistune\ROM_Pack\Type2\ECR33_RB25

A31_FOR_RB25_11U00_74L0F_TPS_VCT_ACOUT_v5_FP.ent
A31_FOR_RB25_11U00_74L0F_TPS_VCT_LEDOUT_v5_FP.ent


Updated documentation to hook it up:
http://nistune.com/docs/Nistune%20Featu ... k%20V1.pdf

Software version 1.2.7 will contain all address files etc to support these updates
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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okay, forgive me matt, but just trying to get this straight. so with these maps I can use a rb20det ecu with a vvti rb25det neo now? and this map can control the vvti? I thought the rb20 ecu didn't have the internal driver to make this happen??
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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I found the output port pins on the HD63140 pulse processor chip in this ECU. I also then found the associated memory locations to drive the ports. The R32 ECUs are lacking on spare IO but I found some things:

23710-04Uxx ECUs have an unused GREEN LED driver which is able to run a solenoid (A31 Cefiro has this LED installed, which I can remove and use for VCT also)

23710-11Uxx ECUs can allow us to hijack the Air conditioning compressor driver and run a solenoid through that (it does not have a driver connected to the output of the GREEN LED port on the HD63140 chip)

Updated the document with full wiring details (basically one wire to the VCT pin inside the ECU)
http://nistune.com/docs/Nistune%20Featu ... k%20V1.pdf
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Updated files will be put in another release today 1.2.13

Please note that for VCT and AFM to function properly you must use the V5 maps (which come in the ENT when you sync from the board, or in the _maps.bin file which I'll include for these vehicles in this release)

There is a new low AFM voltage parameter added to the software. Using older tunes without these maps defined will max out the parameters
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Some clarification when using this setup.

1. Make sure you install ROM Pack 2.8 and Nistune 1.2.14 (latest)
2. There has been some renaming with the files (ECU part # with feature packs end with 'F')
So use the part number 11U0F / 74L0F as per file names described in posts above
3. Program the ENT file into the board
4. Nistune will automatically detect the feature pack loaded in the board now and load the appropriate address file. You should see the VCT parameters inside Nistune with the feature pack loaded.
5. Sync the sync from the board to the ECU
6. Maps files matching these are here:

A31 Cefiro ECU:
Type2\ECR33_RB25\HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U00_74L0F_MT_TPS_VCT_FP_maps.bin

HCR32 RB20 ECU:
Type2\ECR33_RB25\HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U0F_MT_TPS_VCT_FP_maps.bin

7. These files only contain the maps (not the feature pack firmware). Feature pack firmware cannot be burnt to EPROM!
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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These files dont seem to be in the latest rom packs or feature packs. Have they been deleted? or are there updated versions?
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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udate instructions too as the old ones above dont have diagrams

http://nistune.com/docs/Nistune%20Featu ... nstall.pdf
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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There is a separate feature pack installer now
http://nistune.com/releases/Nistune_FP1 ... ck_1.0.exe

For R33 RB25 support:

Type2\ECR33_RB25

Map files:
HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U0F_MT_TPS_VCT_FP_maps.bin
HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U1F_AT_TPS_VCT_FP_maps.bin
A31_FOR_RB25_11U00_74L0F_TPS_VCT_FP_maps.bin]

ENT files:
A31_FOR_RB25_11U00_74L0F_TPS_VCT_ACOUT_v5_FP.ent
A31_FOR_RB25_11U00_74L0F_TPS_VCT_LEDOUT_v5_FP.ent
HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U0F_MT_TPS_VCT_ACOUT_v5_FP.ent
HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U0F_MT_TPS_VCT_LEDOUT_v5_FP.ent
HCR32_FOR_RB25_11U1F_AT_TPS_VCT_LEDOUT_v5_FP.ent
Z32_FOR_RB25DET_41P03_MT_v3.ENT
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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udate instructions too as the old ones above dont have diagrams
Which diagrams? The RB25 VCT diagrams are at the end of the document
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Matt wrote:
udate instructions too as the old ones above dont have diagrams
Which diagrams? The RB25 VCT diagrams are at the end of the document
yeah i posted the update link this one only had a description no pictures (http://nistune.com/docs/Nistune%20Featu ... k%20V1.pdf)
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Okay makes sense :D

I split the two documents up since the tuning instructions to use it should not live with the wiring information anymore...
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Just so I understand this correctly, if I add VCT control to 23710-11U00 I lose the AC?
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Not any more...

There is an update for the 11U00 ECUs now to use the Fuel Pump idle control output instead to run the VCT output. Most people upgrade their fuel pump so it only runs from the relay. Means this output is spare and available

Have a look here:
http://nistune.com/docs/Nistune%20Featu ... stall.pdf
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Re: HCR32 ECU for RB25 with VCT output

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Is there an easy way to confirm that the fuel pump VCT mod is working correctly?
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