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NOS with nistune

Postby unex » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:08 am

hi everybody,
did anyone tried to run NOS with nistune?

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby bachig24u » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:04 am

yes, wet kit.

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby unex » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:52 pm

bachig24u wrote:yes, wet kit.

how did you controlled ignition and afr on injection moment?

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby bachig24u » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:42 pm

sorry you've lost me, not sure exactly what you need to know.

anything along the lines of,
how to tune for NOS powered engine, how to remap the ign advance to suit NOS in turbo charged engines, How to calculate fuel delivery changes when using NOS, or how to upload a calibration to suit drag racing with NOS?

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby unex » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:02 am

sorry, my bad :)
I think none of these...
Lets say its not drag car, so, when you just driving around you have one ignition and fuel table and you are not using NOS, but when you decide to shot NOS and you need other ignition and fuel table (or some enrichment table to switch on). So my question was, how did you controlled this with nistune?
Hope this time is quite clear question :)

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby bachig24u » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:47 pm

Decide on the operating parameters such as, NOS operating rpm window, NOS TPS activation position, load and rpm points for NOS boost.

Tune the car with and without NOS.
Overlap maps and calibrate/configure the compromise, make adjustments to the NOS operation to suit compromise so NOS can not operate outside the given parameters.

Depending on the ECU (e.g. VLT / CR31), dual tunes can be configured and activated on TPS or NOS activation.

In the land down under there are hefty fines for using NOS or having NOS plumbed to the bottle in a street registered vehicle, so I tend not to answer any questions that will not comply to local law but I'm happy to set the car up for race only and you can drive it wherever ever you wish.

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby unex » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:39 pm

bachig24u wrote:Decide on the operating parameters such as, NOS operating rpm window, NOS TPS activation position, load and rpm points for NOS boost.

this is exactly what I am asking: how to do this with NISTUNE ? How to trigger NOS activation depending on those parameters? I have idea to use VCT activation for NOS activation (the car is without VCT). Still trying to think why this shouldnt work.

bachig24u wrote:Tune the car with and without NOS.
Overlap maps and calibrate/configure the compromise, make adjustments to the NOS operation to suit compromise so NOS can not operate outside the given parameters.
Compromises is not the best solution for me. I need two tables (for example use knock table for that) or I need to use some offsets. Still not figured out how to do that.

bachig24u wrote:In the land down under there are hefty fines for using NOS or having NOS plumbed to the bottle in a street registered vehicle, so I tend not to answer any questions that will not comply to local law but I'm happy to set the car up for race only and you can drive it wherever ever you wish.

I see you dont get me. I dont need basics, and the second thing is, that I am located in Europe, so we dont have any law restrictions for NOS :)

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby bachig24u » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:42 pm

ok. in that case, the ECU must support an input so it switches to gear/knock map when NOS is activated.
not a nice way but that may be the only way.

you would need to mimic a sufficient knock input or gear map, maybe if you offer the intended ECU we may be able to offer more.

note: Nistune is only software and has no provisions at this stage for NOS configurations.

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby Topdog781 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:08 pm

A good way to do this Unex is to wire in a external ignition box with timing control. Such as the msd digital 6, on activation this will allow you to retard the timing up to 9 degrees I believe is the maximum. Your using a wet kit so your additional enrichment comes from the nitrous kit obviously.

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby Matt » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:39 pm

note: Nistune is only software and has no provisions at this stage for NOS configurations


It may be a possibility already

Using the Feature Pack firmware you can use the diagnostic input from the ECU to trigger usage of the flex fuel + ignition maps

This lets you potentially hook up a NOS switch to the input and use extra fuel and timing on the fly. This is available for a select set of ECUs so far, with more to come

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby unkn0wn » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:36 pm

Can you use a Nistune FP to define when NOS can spray, or will it only let you switch map based on an input?

I was watching a video online of a workshop who setup 2 stage NOS on a laggy SR20.

the two stage would activate under a certain rpm and boost, and disconnect when boost was building
it would also fire in a quick shot of nos if you stabled the acelerator

looked really cool.

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Re: NOS with nistune

Postby Matt » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:13 pm

Would only do it on input at the moment. I don't have a huge demand for NOS to write triggering code.


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